Top 100 Players / Best Teams of All-Time

by Bruce Grossberg
edited by Steve Orinick

Best Teams
Top Players by Position

Steve, I recently finished updating that list of the greatest players of all time. Here it is if you want to update it on your web site. Only 25 people voted this time, but a much more knowledgeable group of people than the 47 voters from the last one, which was 4 years ago. This time each voter gave me their top 50 players of all time, ranked in order. Last time it was a top 40.

I only ranked players who were listed on at least two of the voters' lists, so it came out to the top 91 players of all time, plus honorable mentions at the end.

Here's a little project I did a couple of years ago. I got a bunch of baseball historians (47 guys in all) to each list who they felt were the top 40 best baseball players of all time.  Bill James, several other respected SABR members, and various additional historians participated. The point totals were added up similar to the MVP vote, 1 point for #40, 2 pts. for #39, etc...
I was looking for a top 100 players of all time list, but ended up with the top 97 players, as I did not put anybody on the final list unless they had been mentioned at least twice in the voting by the participants.
Anyone who played Major League or Negro League baseball was eligible, including those who played only in the 19th Century. The results of the survey were published in a book called "Diamond Chronicles",  published by Stats Inc. in 1998. Included was a small paragraph that I wrote about each player as I counted down the survey results, starting at #97 and working my way down to #1.
 

Updated: December, 2001 
sample size = 25    

Rank / Player

Total 
Points

Included

 1.  Babe Ruth

1742

25

 2.  Honus Wagner

1626

25

 3.  Willie Mays

1614

25

 4.  Ted Williams

1510

25

 5.  Ty Cobb

1491

25

 6.  Walter Johnson

1467

25

 7.  Hank Aaron

1423

25

 8.  Barry Bonds

1341

25

 9.  Tris Speaker

1291

25

10. Stan Musial

1242

25

11. Lou Gehrig

1239

25

12. Mickey Mantle

1195

25

13. Rogers Hornsby

1140

25

14. Lefty Grove

1105

25

15. Mike Schmidt

1195

25

16. Cy Young

1062

25

17. Eddie Collins

1049

25

18. Frank Robinson

959

25

19. Christy Mathewson

940

25

20. Jimmie Foxx

937

25

21. Grover Alexander

924

24

22. Joe Morgan

879

23

23. Nap Lajoie

846

24

24. Roger Clemens

841

23

25. Joe DiMaggio

841

23

26. Rickey Henderson

812

22

27. Josh Gibson

786

18

28. Mel Ott

766

23

29. Tom Seaver

722

24

30. Eddie Mathews

699

24

31. Greg Maddux

697

23

32. Oscar Charleston

663

16

33. Johnny Bench

655

24

34. Satchel Paige

624

18

35. Warren Spahn

600

24

36. George Brett

595

24

37. Yogi Berra

491

19

38. Arky Vaughan

385

17

39. Bob Feller

359

16

40. Ken Griffey, Jr.

357

15

41. Bob Gibson

347

18

42. Mike Piazza

330

17

43. Mark McGwire

322

12

44. Kid Nichols

320

14

45. Cal Ripken

292

15

46. Jackie Robinson

267

12

47. Jeff Bagwell

260

13

48. Ed Delahanty

246

11

49. Carl Yastrzemski

234

12

50. Sandy Koufax

194

8

51. Alex Rodriguez

186

9

52. Johnny Mize

185

9

53. Steve Carlton

175

9

54. Hank Greenberg

168

8

55. Pete Rose

135

6

56. Reggie Jackson

131

8

57. Charlie Gehringer

130

7

58. Pop Lloyd

129

5

59. Buck Leonard

128

5

60. Joe Jackson

125

5

61. Roberto Clemente

114

5

62. Roy Campanella

111

6

63. Randy Johnson

100

5

64. Carl Hubbell

94

5

65. Al Kaline

90

6

66. Martin Dihigo

86

2

67. Duke Snider

82

5

68. Cap Anson

82

3

69. Wade Boggs

80

5

70. Mickey Cochrane

79

4

71. Robin Yount

77

4

72. Turkey Steames

75

3

73. Tony Gwynn

70

4

74. Dan Brouthers

70

3

75. Whitey Ford

68

4

76. Eddie Murray

66

3

77. King Kelly

60

2

78. Tim Keefe

58

3

79. Bid McPhee

54

2

80. Willie McCovey

53

3

81. George Davis

51

3

82. Pedro Martinez

45

3

83. Buck Ewing

45

2

84. Smokey Joe Williams

44

3

85. Mule Suttles

39

2

85. John Clarkson

37

2

87. Frank Thomas

37

2

88. Tim Raines

35

2

89. Ozzie Smith

33

2

90. Willie Stargell

29

2

91. Roberto Alomar

28

2


Honorable Mention
Frank "Home Run" Baker
Three Finger Brown
Craig Biggio
Eddie Cicotte
Roger Connor
Joe Cronin
Ray Dandridge
Bill Dickey
Goose Goslin
Bobby Grich
Billy Hamilton
Harry Heilmann
Derek Jeter
Harmon Killebrew
Juan Marichal
Jim Palmer
Brooks Robinson
Ivan Rodriguez
Nolan Ryan
Ryne Sandberg
Al Simmons
Sammy Sosa
Ichiro Suzuki

Ranking by Position

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Completed: December, 1997
sample size=47

Rank / Player

Total 
Points

Included

Included in 
Top 5

6-10 
Inclusions

 1.  Babe Ruth

2342

47

47

0

 2.  Honus Wagner

2000

46

38

5

 3.  Willie Mays

1913

47

26

16

 4.  Ted Williams

1906

47

26

17

 5.  Ty Cobb

1771

46

21

14

 6.  Walter Johnson

1704

47

13

23

 7.  Lou Gehrig

1683

47

13

18

 8.  Hank Aaron

1640

46

14

17

 9.  Lefty Grove

1380

45

11

13

10. Stan Musial

1378

46

2

14

11. Mickey Mantle

1357

47

4

12

12. Mike Schmidt

1201

44

3

11

13. Tris Speaker

1183

46

3

11

14. Rogers Hornsby

1058

40

4

10

15. Christy Mathewson

990

45

0

2

16. Jimmie Foxx

955

45

0

1

17. Joe DiMaggio

831

42

1

7

18. Eddie Collins

801

41

0

1

19. Barry Bonds

790

29

1

12

20. Cy Young

769

37

0

6

21. Frank Robinson

703

42

0

0

22. Grover Alexander

697

36

1

1

23. Joe Morgan

677

40

0

1

24. Josh Gibson

671

32

2

1

25. Nap Lajoie

657

29

2

5

26. Satchel Paige

629

27

1

4

27. Warren Spahn

577

39

0

0

28. Johnny Bench

548

39

0

1

29. Tom Seaver

500

29

0

0

30. Greg Maddux

450

31

0

1

31. Eddie Mathews

425

37

0

0

32. Yogi Berra

415

29

0

1

33. Rickey Henderson

367

26

0

1

34. George Brett

356

24

0

0

35. Mel Ott

348

29

0

0

36. Frank Thomas

322

20

0

2

37. Steve Carlton

318

27

0

0

38. Ken Griffey Jr.

271

15

1

3

39. Ernie Banks

269

23

0

0

40. Sandy Koufax

238

20

0

1

41. Oscar Charleston

232

13

1

1

42. Jackie Robinson

188

16

0

0

43. Bob Gibson

185

16

0

0

44. Roger Clemens

177

19

0

0

45. Roberto Clemente

164

17

0

0

46. Pete Rose

148

10

0

1

47. Bob Feller

144

16

0

0

48. Hank Greenberg

144

14

0

0

49. Joe Jackson

139

12

0

0

50. Cal Ripken

128

14

0

0

51.Carl Yastrzemski

120

14

0

0

52. Pop Lloyd

117

6

0

1

53. Buck Leonard

112

10

0

0

54. Carl Hubbell

108

12

0

0

55. George Davis

98

10

0

0

56. Ed Delahanty

86

9

0

0

57. Mike Piazza

86

7

0

0

58. Bill Dickey

84

4

0

0

59. Roy Campanella

80

7

0

0

60. Nolan Ryan

77

10

0

0

61. Dan Brouthers

74

6

0

0

62. Charlie Gehringer

73

10

0

0

63. Al Kaline

71

7

0

0

64. Johnny Mize

60

5

0

0

65. George Sisler

56

4

0

0

66. Buck Ewing

55

6

0

0

67. Kid Nichols

46

4

0

0

68. Mark McGwire

46

3

0

0

69. Cap Anson

44

4

0

0

70. Al Simmons

43

7

0

0

71. Tim Raines

43

3

0

0

72. Dennis Eckersley

42

8

0

0

73. Willie McCovey

40

4

0

0

74. Ozzie Smith

39

7

0

0

75. Pie Traynor

38

2

0

0

76. Lou Boudreau

35

2

0

0

77. Tony Gwynn

34

4

0

0

78. Juan Marichal

33

3

0

0

79. Reggie Jackson

32

3

0

0

80. Hoyt Wilhelm

31

4

0

0

81. Martin Dihigo

28

3

0

0

82. Mickey Cochrane

27

4

0

0

83. Ralph Kiner

27

2

0

0

84.Three Finger Brown

25

3

0

0

85. Arky Vaughan

21

2

0

0

85. King Kelly

21

2

0

0

87. Harmon Killebrew

20

6

0

0

88. Ed Walsh

20

2

0

0

89. Bill Dahlen

17

2

0

0

90. Paul Waner

16

3

0

0

91. Robin Yount

15

3

0

0

92. Duke Snider

14

4

0

0

93. Eddie Murray

13

2

0

0

94. Whitey Ford

12

3

0

0

95. Brooks Robinson

10

3

0

0

96. Rollie Fingers

10

2

0

0

97. Wade Boggs

5

2

0

0

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Best Teams of All-Time

I've put together a simple system to rate teams. I'm not claiming that it's mathematically sophisticated, or that it proves anything. It's simply a quick list of which teams in history come out the best. 
Here's the system:

5 points for each game over .500 (regular season)
1 point for each run scored above runs allowed (run differential)
20 points for each World Series game over .500
minus 20 points for each World Series game below .500

I've checked all 20th Century teams. There are only 13 teams that accumulated 600 or more points with the system:

1.  1939 Yankees

796 points

2.  1927 Yankees

786 points

3.  1998 Yankees

719 points

4.  1906 Cubs *

684 points

5.  1902 Pirates **

670 points

6.  1932 Yankees

658 points

7.  1929 Athletics

636 points

8.  1936 Yankees

629 points

9.  1942 Cardinals

623 points

10.1905 Giants

620 points

11.1937 Yankees

618 points

12.1909 Pirates

612 points

13.1944 Cardinals

602 points

*(only team on list that lost the World Series)
**
(no World Series)

There were no adjustments made for expansion or war years, so you can draw your own conclusions. Some of the teams that people consider among the best (1961 Yankees, 1954 Indians, 1976 Reds etc.) did not have very high run differentials. The 1976 Reds only had an ERA+ of 100, meaning that their pitching was right at the league average. I think people overrate them because of their memorable everyday lineup and because they swept through the post season.  Their regular season numbers are not any better than loads of teams that won pennants.

Note that the Yankees placed 4 teams from the 1930's in the top 11 teams on the list. Three teams ('36, '37 & '39) from a 4 year period made the top 11. The 1938 team was not far behind either. I don't think there's any doubt that the 1936-1939 Yankees would have to be considered the greatest team of all time for any multi-year period.

If the 1906 Cubs had swept the World Series (
+80) instead of losing in 6 games (-40) they would have topped the list. If there had been a World Series in 1902 and the Pirates had won in 4 or 5 games in a 7 game series, they would have ranked 3rd behind the '39 and '27 Yankees.

The 1932 Yankee team is overlooked all the time, since it came in between the two dynasties ('26-'28 and '36-'39) but they were a tremendous club. So were the 1942 Cardinals, who deserve a spot here. The 1904 Giants would have been here too, if there had been a World Series that year and if they had won it in 6 games or less.

 

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